From: David DOUGLAS ('62) Sandstorm Extra that might be political Re: Political ? Extra Re: article - Free Lunch I haven't had a problem with the political discussion, but I think Maren has provided an excellent solution for those who do. Thank you, Maren. Some poor people come to churches seeking financial assistance. Some even use this as their main source of income, making the rounds of different churches. Sometimes these people are actually scammers. I'm an ordained minister (although I never intended to be a full-time pastor). Most churches have a benevolent fund. In the New Testament, there are several references to benevolent funds which were used to help destitute fellow Christians. One church I was a member of voted to use the benevolent fund only for persons outside the church; a special offering would be taken for church members in need. I was the only one who voted against it. Two weeks later the pastor asked the church to reverse that decision; a member needed immediate help but the pastor had to wait until the next Sunday to take a special offering. My preference for a church pastor is to tell people who come asking for help that the church does have a benevolent fund, but it is only for church members. If they need assistance they should go to their own church for help. If they say they belong to a church but it doesn't have money to help them, I'd ask for the name of the pastor and I would call him. I suspect at that point the scammers would leave. If they say they don't belong to a church and ask how to become a member of my church, I'd tell them the first requirement is to be a Christian. If they say they are, I'd ask them to tell me how one becomes a Christian. If they don't have an adequate answer, I'd give them my church's definition. I'd also tell them that before they can become a member of the church, a deacon will interview them, and if he's satisfied he'll recommend the person to the church for membership. Then the congregation will vote on whether to accept the recommendation. If the person is a scammer he'll probably leave at that point since the process can take a week to a month. The whole purpose of this is accountability. A person outside the church has no accountability to the church for how they use any assistance the church provides. Church members are accountable to the church; if a person demonstrates they are "free-loading" it can cut off assistance. That's the problem with government welfare. No one holds people on public assistance accountable for how they use that assistance, and it is often abused. -David DOUGLAS ('62) ~ Mesa, AZ where it's bright and sunny Christmas morning. ****************************************************************